.Andrei Pivovarov was among the 16 prisoners freed from Russia in recently's primary captive exchange in between Moscow and also the West.The prominent adversary protestor, 42, was actually managed a Warsaw-bound airplane by Russian safety services in 2021 after the pro-democracy group Open up Russia, which he moved, was prohibited as " unfavorable." He was actually penalized to 4 years behind bars in 2022 for his deal with the group.The Moscow Moments talked to Pivovarov concerning the swap and also his prepare for the future:.MT: Just how performed you believe when you were actually being actually needed to the airport terminal? Performed you know that it was actually a swap?AP: By the opportunity our team got to the airport terminal, it was actually crystal clear that we were actually being actually required to a substitution, yet our company failed to know where.I think I fully understood the quite reality of what was actually happening when I was being derived from the nest on Sunday early morning. It was the 25th [of July] I realized that something phenomenal was happening because I was actually picked up by the head of the swarm as well as he personally helped me hold my factors. Yet there were no specifics.You have a tendency to presume the worst in any kind of vague scenario. I had all type of notions. However there was an instant when I was actually sent-- I had to sign for a dry supply. And also I see a label on the previous line: Alexandra Skochilenko. As well as I ensure that if Sasha and also I are together, it is actually hardly a bad account.I thought that it would feel like in the motion pictures-- an arena where we are actually pardoned due to the tsar and discharged in front of the RT electronic cameras. The 2nd probability was a version of the theorists' aircraft, which regrettably became even more actual in life.However every little thing was concealed until the exact side. When our company were offered Lefortovo [Prison, just before the substitution], our company were in solitude and could possibly certainly not speak to anyone.On Thursday morning they carried our company a launch certificate without purchase amount, absolutely nothing. Our company had half an hour to pack, we took our traits.There were actually individuals in disguises as well as uniforms along with our company. If any one of our team stood up to and also refused to be expelled, their duty was actually to place our company on the plane whatsoever. They clearly told our company that subsequently.The 1st individual I observed on the bus was [Ilya] Yashin. It was actually surely pleasant to observe him. There knew and also unknown faces afterwards, yet personally, I was extremely anxious whether Volodya Kara-Murza will exist. He was just one of the last to be produced, which was a large comfort, considering that he possesses the lengthiest paragraph.Do you know who pushed for your addition in the list?Just how the lists were actually developed is actually a mystery to me. I haven't been able to consult with all my associates however. Coming from my understanding, there were various groups from which information was actually collected and the ultimate listing was actually considerably higher what you have observed. And also it was shortened through Russia. When all the dreams were accumulated and corresponded as well as sort of set, less folks were at some point launched.You were meant to become launched in a month ...This is just one of the most complicated things for me. If you look at my illegal suit, the time period that I had actually left behind [to offer] may not be actually reviewed to the terms of the others [political prisoners]I can easily claim that I have information from a number of sources that the likelihood of my launch [by the end of my sentence] was actually certainly not guaranteed. That's why I found yourself on the list. Our company have actually observed instances where individuals were imprisoned on their escape of the colony considering that some brand new unlawful instances were opened. As well as unfortunately, there were telephone calls that stated that in my scenario, the outcome could not be the best.What are your plans now? Perform you know what you will carry out in the near future?I am currently an individual without documentations and also no sense of home. I was actually given out a Russian interior key and I have two documents-- one substitutes my [overseas passport] and the second substitutes my visa. As it was actually clarified to me, these documents allow me to stay in Germany for 15 times-- exclusively in Germany, not in the EU. It is actually challenging to make significant plans. Therefore originally, certainly, I would like to fix the domestic parts.And then-- I have been performing social and political work with 15-20 years. My keep in penitentiary did not repel me from it, however on the other hand inspired me even more. I possess some suggestions, as I possessed opportunity to believe and reflect [behind bars]And the main target listed below, most likely, is to attempt to speak a lot more with those who remained inside [Russia] To try to offer a planning to collaborate with those who might certainly not be our followers, however that are irritated along with what is taking place. If we can easily provide [people in Russia] the chance to share themselves without placing on their own at significant danger, I think that's what a democratic force ought to do.